The Hidden Forest

Not sure if intended or overlooked but currently out of all T6 instances Ascent item drops seem to have a advantage over the rest of the T6 zone drops.

Mainly due the fact that as far as i know all drops got 2 x 8 , 1 x 16 aug slot,which in the older T6 raid zones only where found on CT/PD drops.

But its not only that which can be seen especially by the weapon drops

as a example

Stillmoon

Skullsplitter - 121088
()
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: PRIMARY
Skill : 2H Slashing Atk Delay: 37
DMG: 163 Dmg bonus: 39 (lvl70) AC: 130
Skill Mod: 2h slashing +17%
Effect: Force Strike (Combat)
STR: +15 STA: +15 WIS: +10 INT: +10 AGI: +15 CHA: +15
HP: +1275 MANA: +1275 Endurance: +1275
SV DISEASE: +14 SV COLD: +12 SV POISON: +17
Attack: +45
Required level of 70
WT: 6 Size: LARGE
Class: BER SHD RNG PAL WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 4 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty
Slot 3, Type: 16 empty

Vs

VP

Aged Bo Staff of Trorsmang - 69427
()
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: PRIMARY
Skill : 2H Blunt Atk Delay: 35
DMG: 150 Dmg bonus: 38 (lvl70) AC: 125
Bane DMG: Dragon +15
Effect: Lure of Flame (Combat)
STR: +50 DEX: +20 STA: +15 WIS: +15 INT: +35 AGI: +35 CHA: +35
HP: +1250 MANA: +1250 Endurance: +1250
SV FIRE: +40 SV DISEASE: +25 SV COLD: +50 SV MAGIC: +40 SV POISON: +40
Combat Effects: +25
Required level of 60
WT: 3 Size: MEDIUM
Class: BER BST MNK
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 16 empty

The Skullsplitter stat wise has the advantage with 25 more hp/mana/end while the rest of the stats are mostly in advantage for the Staff.
Dmg/Dly ratio wise would the Skullsplitter now in most situations come ahead unless facing mobs that are considered as Dragons.

Another thing which i noticed was that most drops from the other T6 zones (Solusek's Ro Tower/Plane of Tactics) have only 1 Type 8 slot besides that of Solusek and Rallos.
Also the focus effects/procs could use maybe a adjustment ?

Reason for this post is simple in my opinion it takes the least effort/danger (or in case of Tactics money) to get access to Stillmoon drops than the rest.

I don't understand the logic behind asking an item to be slightly nerfed, but that's just me.

bazillion wrote:I don't understand the logic behind asking an item to be slightly nerfed, but that's just me.

Did you see me asking anything to be nerfed ? Or that this is only about one item (i only posted one example)?

I just try to point out that at least in "my opinion" the Reward for doing a "Key mob" in an Instance aimed for a Group shouldn't be on par to the Reward of finishing the final boss of a Raid instance at least augment slot wise.

Nexor wrote:Did you see me asking anything to be nerfed ? Or that this is only about one item (i only posted one example)?

I just try to point out that at least in "my opinion" the Reward for doing a "Key mob" in an Instance aimed for a Group shouldn't be on par to the Reward of finishing the final boss of a Raid instance at least augment slot wise.

You should take a look at the classes that can use the wepaon, both weapons werent made for the same classes.

Ok i get it that ppl only look at the "one" example i posted

So lets take a look at another example shall we ?

This item is dropped by:
In The Ascent by
#Terrorwing

Swift Mantle
()
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 100
Effect: Improved Dodge IX (Worn)
STR: +10 DEX: +20 STA: +10 WIS: +25 INT: +25 AGI: +30 CHA: +15
HP: +695 MANA: +695 Endurance: +695
SV DISEASE: +25 SV MAGIC: +5 SV POISON: +25
Attack: +25
Combat Effects: +5
Strikethrough: +5%
Required level of 70
WT: 0 Size: SMALL
Class: BER BST ROG BRD MNK SHD RNG PAL WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty
Slot 3, Type: 16 empty

Vs

This item is dropped by:
In Veeshan's Peak by
Hoshkar

Aged Shoulderpads of Calamity
()
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 20
Effect: Improved Dodge X (Worn)
Effect: True Prolongation (Focus)
STR: +30 DEX: +15 STA: +20 WIS: +10 INT: +10 AGI: +20 CHA: +30
HP: +625 MANA: +625 Endurance: +625
SV FIRE: +40 SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +30 SV MAGIC: +40 SV POISON: +10
Attack: +15
Damage Shield: +3
Mana Regeneration: +3
Endurance Regeneration: +5
Combat Effects: +20
Strikethrough: +5%
Stun Resist: +5%
Required level of 70
WT: 1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 16 empty

Vs

This item is dropped by:
In Plane of Fear by
Cazic Thule

Pauldrons of Ferocity
()
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 95
Skill Mod: Riposte +17%
Effect: Improved Parry X (Worn)
STR: +10 DEX: +35 STA: +10 WIS: +25 INT: +25 AGI: +35 CHA: +15
HP: +715 MANA: +725 Endurance: +725
SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +35 SV COLD: +25 SV MAGIC: +25 SV POISON: +35
Avoidance: +35
Damage Shield: +7
Shielding: +5%
Required level of 70
WT: 4 Size: MEDIUM
Class: SHD PAL WAR
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty
Slot 3, Type: 16 empty

Or to point directly to the main problem here

In The Ascent by
#Terrorwing (need to kill to get key for area with final boss in a group zone)
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty
Slot 3, Type: 16 empty

This item is dropped by:
In Veeshan's Peak by
Hoshkar(raid zone named/boss)
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 16 empty

This item is dropped by:
In Plane of Fear by
Cazic Thule(Final Boss of raid zone)
Slot 1, Type: 8 empty
Slot 2, Type: 8 empty
Slot 3, Type: 16 empty

Want more examples ?

If you aren't looking for a nerf, what exactly is the point of this post? I am clearly missing something here...

lpdfan wrote:If you aren't looking for a nerf, what exactly is the point of this post? I am clearly missing something here...

It's not up to me what would need to be done or if it should just left alone, i just pointing out that the risk vs reward is a bit off in the T6 zones.

final boss of each zones always get double slot 8 items
so the items from the tier 6 final boss will be better then the a middle name of tier 7, and the final boss item of t7 will be better then a middle named of tier 8 etc.

I agree that Ascent items are indeed better than drops from T6 raid zones My rogue used a dagger he got off some crappy little mini in the first part of ascent over the dagger he looted off Nexona in VP, a dragon that is a tad bit more formidable than some light tanknspank mob in a narrow hallway of a zone . The loot in that zone is mighty appealing in risk vs reward compared to VP/Fear. Whether something should be done about it? Meh. I don't think most people even know about the zone - it's kind of out of the way, easy to miss, most people probably see it and don't flag for it because they think it's a T2 zone